You mentioned your dream of hosting a fishing show after college, but you ended up in Seattle, Washington, with the help of some Middlebury alums. What led to that career path?
I grew up deep-sea fishing in Hawaii and then learned to fly-fish at Middlebury. My crazy idea of hosting a fishing show on TV came from my love and knowledge of fishing, but I did not know anything about making television, so I figured I could learn the craft by working in local news. Emily Langlie, a Middlebury alum, was a producer/reporter at the ABC station in Seattle, and she let me volunteer to log incoming footage as it beamed into the station during a big political convention. While I was watching, I saw a Middlebury alum, Andrew Friendly, get off Air Force One with President Clinton. Turns out he was an assistant to the president. I called the switchboard at the White House and asked for the phone number of the “cellular telephone” he was carrying (in 1993 the phone was the size of a shoebox and Andrew had it strapped across his shoulder). By some miracle, the White House operator shared that number, and I called Andrew. He said he would try to convince Clinton to give us a quick interview. I went to the news director and offered it to him. We hightailed it to Boeing Field and stood next to Air Force One waiting for the president, but he was running late and despite my pleading with him on the tarmac, we didn’t get the interview. I went back to the news director dejected and explained that I did not get a soundbite from the President. He hired me on the spot.
Rugby has been an important part of your life. What made you chase the opportunity to play club rugby after graduation and what went into balancing all of that alongside earning your master's degree and a full-time job?
I always got better grades in college when I was in season for soccer or rugby, and I found that when I started working, I was more productive and organized when I was playing a sport. Club rugby was incredibly intense and more competitive than collegiate rugby. I did a stint in the United States national program, but one weekend at the bottom of a ruck as I saw a cleat coming for my face, I yelled out, “Don't step on me, I‘m booked for CNN on Monday.” I knew I was juggling too much for my master's program, a full-time job in TV, and trying to compete in the program, so I backed off rugby and eventually quit at 33. Playing sports, especially something as intense as rugby, left me unfazed by the little challenges in life. After playing a full-contact sport, live television isn't that scary.